Post by ohtheglow on Sept 15, 2009 22:54:29 GMT -5
from my portland visit this summer, i remember adrian as quiet and subtle wearing neon wayfarers and a big hoodie with waffles printed on the outside and chocolate bars printed on the inside. he was neat. i'm sure he's still neat.
Some new tour dates posted over at the Marriage Records site:
11.02 Las Vegas 11.03 103 S. Agassiz – Flagstaff, AZ 11.04 YOBS – Tempe, AZ 11.06 THE HANGART – Tucson, AZ 11.07 VAL VERDE SOCIAL CLUB – Val Verde, CA 11.08 ZEPHYR – Long Beach, CA 11.09 REUBEN’S FRIEND’S HOUSE – San Luis Obispo, CA 11.10 THE MOTHERBRAIN – Chico, CA 11.11 THE WAIL – Portland, CA 11.12 BOULEVARD & 8TH (ANNA MINK’S HOUSE) – Olympia, WA 11.13 HEALTHY TIMES FUN CLUB – Seattle, WA 11.14 THE DEN – Tacoma, WA 11.15 THE SPACE – Salem, OR 11.21 DISJECTA – Portland, OR 11.29 THE GREEN HOUSE – Seattle, WA
Adrian Orange's transformation baffles me. It's mind-boggling that he so suddenly went from an extremely diffident, introspective, ethically-minded, songwriting-oriented music with Thanksgiving to this boisterous (if not obnoxious), lyrically-inane, drug-obsessed, hedonistic style of late. It's almost like he's become the antithesis of what he used to be like (aesthetically, as well as in terms of his ostensive personality, lifestyle, etc.); it's so much more than simply having “went in a different musical direction,” as someone commented above.
I'm very glad to find that this forum is running again; I missed it so much. However, I must admit that the main reason I missed it and assiduously sought it out was that there really is no other place to discuss (or glean any ideas whatsoever as to) Orange's current state. He is (and probably always will be) easily my favourite songwriter. His songs have inspired me like nothing else and demonstrated to me how much songs/lyrics/poetry can accomplish emotionally. Consequently, it's very disconcerting to see what seems to have become of him and his creative output.
I was told of a recent show of his by someone who attended. She described the show as consisting basically of pre-recorded “techno shit” upon which Adrian and one “Fancie Whitman” rapped and sang about being “so high.” They seemed heavily under the influence of drugs throughout the set, apparently.
Initially I thought that the new, weird, rave-gangster-mall-punk-brat Adrian Orange was some kind of trick or facetious artistic statement of some kind; I deemed it impossible for someone to actually undergo a metamorphosis of such comic proportion, as he seems to have done. However, recently I'm starting to accept that the Adrian I love, whose work is still what I aspire to in my own creative endeavours, is largely gone.
I absolutely empathize with you, Walter. Although I loved things like Now It Is All Over Like the Birds, I also loved his "coming out of the cave" with Bitches Is Lord and Lillyys' AO. I saw so much fantastic potential there as he expanded his soundworld to include all those new influences. AJO was the album of the year for me in 2007--I still find it so subtle and inviting. It really occupies a niche that very few other works have explored. But in retrospect, his last few releases definitely have a 'coming-apart-at-the-seams' quality to them. I bought AOK - Zone Out, and have listened to it only once. I can't help but feel that he's lost control of his craft. I have reservations about speculating on the various photos and stories that have come out (I haven't witnessed anything myself, so I think that's unfair), but they do seem to add to the picture. Maybe he'll really surprise us all with the upcoming album, but either way I hope he grows out of this drug phase. It's a real shame.
It's starting to get a little self-help group-y at this point, so I'll leave it there.
I went and saw him here in Portland last weekend. I talked to him and bought his new album from him before the show. He seemed to be much more all together when I was talking to him then he had been the last several times I've spoken to him.
The show was pretty embarrassing, just him playing the CD I bought from him and smoking a joint onstage mumbling along, but mostly just standing there.
I love the new AO album. I think it's really good. Most of the songs are him talking about how high he is, but it's all done super well. The second song on the album, "On Drugs", he actually raps pretty well (favorite line: "In my Coup smoking blunts / before I hit the clubs / rolling up dubs/ twenty dollar cigarettes") and the beat is pretty sick. I also like the really long song (sorry, it didn't come with the track listing, just a CD-R) towards the middle where most of the lyrics are "I'm on crack, on chronic, on mescaline, I'm so mother fucking high right now" and "Just sex, No love". Most of you will probably think it's the worst music ever, but I dig it. It's literally all I've listened to the last week.
And I'm not sharing the CD, sorry, I wouldn't be comfortable doing that. You'll hear it soon enough I'm sure.
Post by majororgan on Nov 17, 2009 18:34:10 GMT -5
That's cool to hear some news about it, understandable that you're not sharing it though. Is it the same CD-R of rough mixes that they were selling a while ago, or is it the finished product? It seems odd that it would be on a CD-R if it's all finished.
"On Drugs", he actually raps pretty well (favorite line: "In my Coup smoking blunts / before I hit the clubs / rolling up dubs/ twenty dollar cigarettes")
I blast this when I go to the club.
But seriously guys, it's actually not bad, and I'm not a fan of rap at all, but I really miss the old Adrian so much more. (the new video is decent, I still have hope, we just need him to change directions back to where he was. Pick up where AJO left off Adrian!)
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