Is Phil still married??

[siestafiesta]

Is Phil still married? I recently saw his west coast tour, but he was not wearing a wedding ring ....

[thesearmoires]

i was wondering the same thing myself, sadly. Anyone know?

[transistorrhythm]

I've felt like "Lost Wisdom" was even more blatantly a breakup/relationship dissolution album than "The Glow Pt. 2."

[parachute]

This blog themonologuist.blogspot.com/2011/08/just-to-reiterate.html is only a month old and they look pretty married there!

[majororgan]

let's file this one under "none of our business"

[siestafiesta]

Thanks for the link and the clarity. Any man who doesn't wear his wedding ring on tour, unless he has an "open marriage" or they don't care about rings, great. But, for us real men, wearing a wedding ring is integral to show how much you support your wife. I would never not wear my wedding ring.

And, as far as it being "none of our business"...once you become a public figure, in which you sell your life to us, of course it's our business and right to ask. duh, dude.

[moaner]

Siestafiesta, maybe your wife feels supported by you wearing a ring?
But perhaps not all wives necessarily do?
Perhaps Phil is not a super traditional dude?
It is none of our business.
Why? Because Phil sells us records, not his life.
If he wanted people to talk about his life he'd have a reality TV show or he'd get a lot more personal in interviews.
Don't confuse the underground musicians you like with celebrities.

[yourshape]

Sept 26, 2011 8:38:53 GMT -5 siestafiesta said:

Thanks for the link and the clarity. Any man who doesn't wear his wedding ring on tour, unless he has an "open marriage" or they don't care about rings, great. But, for us real men, wearing a wedding ring is integral to show how much you support your wife. I would never not wear my wedding ring.

And, as far as it being "none of our business"...once you become a public figure, in which you sell your life to us, of course it's our business and right to ask. duh, dude.

Why the hostility? It's hard to believe someone could be married to you.

[siestafiesta]

TO MOANER:

To disseminate your major points, I will break it down as such ....

1. The definition of a public figure: "a well-known or notable person" (look it up)....

Phil is both of these things. Here's why...

You argue that Phil is an "underground musician"... that used to be the case before he decided to tour outside of Anacortes and sell his wares both to the world and on the internet. Did you know his FB page has 5000 friends, but he didn't set up the page at all and it has no true Mt Eerie info on it? Can you imagine how many friends he would have if he actually ran it? He is a hero to many indie musicians and is often compared to Elliott Smith. Just because he doesn't have a reality show, which are lame anyways, doesn't mean he is not famous. Look how many posts are on this forum and how there are thousands of people interested in him! I know the thought of Phil being famous sucks for us originals, "I was listening to Phil in D+ or when he produced Mirah!!" Also, he is not just a musician but an artist, a painter, an author, a photographer.... He is putting his life out there for us to dissect so he can make a living, you dig?

2. "Phil is a non-traditional guy." Oh, really? He got married, which is the epitome of traditional. He has his own business, also traditional. In fact he lives in a house not IN the forest, once again traditional. He also struggles with this character he has given us in 'Dawn' (an excellent book, I highly recommend it). He struggles because he wants to be this this guy he has presented to us, but appreciates and longs for the solitude that privacy can only give. His music is the not just about the forest, but about his pangs of being alone, both loving and hating it at the same time. And, this book was written years ago! So, if he percieved himself as a public entity then, he sure as heck is one now.

3. Phil created his own wiki entry. If you don't want to be in the public eye, why would you do that? How do I know? Because it was filled with so many Phil-isms that wikipedia gutted it and said it didn't fit their standards. Which is sooo Phil.

4. Phil sings about "girls at shows". Although this line of lyric is pre his marriage, not only is he cognitively aware of girls at his shows, but girls STILL throw themselves at him at his shows. So, for his wife to know he is on tour out there in the yonder and he isn't wearing a wedding ring, frankly, I think it's disrespectful. Wearing a ring also shows other women you are taken, it is not just for the comfort of the wife. My wife knows I love her because I show it to other people by wearing a familiar symbol which everyone can understand.

5. Google trend "Mount Eerie". Type into Google: 'Google Trends', then type 'Mount Eerie'... that proves he has enough search volume to be a public figure. Google doesn't screw around. If no one if googling you, you won't show up!

We all obviously adore Phil, which is understandable. It is totally my right as a fan to query on the status of his life, whether it be marriage, divorce, death or a cousin that got knocked up by an uncle ((not saying that is the case with Phil)). I can ask & I can also have an opinion, which can be ignored or replied to, as it is everyones right to respond or be indifferent. That is what a forum is all about. Especially, this one - IT'S SO COOL !!!!

[genevieve]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT.
I have known of the existence of this board, but obviously try to avoid it. It is not really my place. You guys go ahead and talk about Phil all you want. It might not be the best of ideas for me to get involved but I just couldn't let this one slide, from a feminist point of view.

SIESTAFIESTA, I will not grant you an answer to your question. You are clearly being a dick to everyone else about it. All I can say is that I have been married to Phil. I will not tell you about the beginning or the end (if an end there was).
I will state that rings do not necessarily mean much to all the people who love one another. Maybe at your house it's a big deal, but we are not all the same. Humans are allowed to break traditions whenever they want. Relationships are not all based on rules.
Assuming that Phil is not being supportive of his wife because he is not wearing a ring crosses a line into the realm of creepiness. You are being a little poisonous. I think that is what the others are trying to point out.
Personally, I do not need you as my defender.
Sincerely.
geneviève.
P.S.: I really promise that I will not be reading this board again, please continue your exchanges without having to worry about me lurking.

[siestafiesta]

Sept 26, 2011 18:00:51 GMT -5 yourshape said:

Sept 26, 2011 8:38:53 GMT -5 siestafiesta said:

Thanks for the link and the clarity. Any man who doesn't wear his wedding ring on tour, unless he has an "open marriage" or they don't care about rings, great. But, for us real men, wearing a wedding ring is integral to show how much you support your wife. I would never not wear my wedding ring.

And, as far as it being "none of our business"...once you become a public figure, in which you sell your life to us, of course it's our business and right to ask. duh, dude.

Why the hostility? It's hard to believe someone could be married to you.

wait - what? oh, ok, I am a bad husband because I wear a wedding ring?!! you are stone cold trippin, dawg. That makes me an awesome husband! just so you know how indie i am- i am wearing an ironic t-shirt right now and will take my wife out to dinner later, after which we will pan for gold. So, not only do i care about my wife, i give her all the gold we find. Sorry we don't wearing matching shark tooth necklaces to show our commitment to one another if you think rings don't matter. I think it's important to wear a ring! or to quote phil, "who cares!" riiiight???

[siestafiesta]

Sept 26, 2011 21:51:54 GMT -5 genevieve said:

HOLY FUCKING SHIT.
I have known of the existence of this board, but obviously try to avoid it. It is not really my place. You guys go ahead and talk about Phil all you want. It might not be the best of ideas for me to get involved but I just couldn't let this one slide, from a feminist point of view.

SIESTAFIESTA, I will not grant you an answer to your question. You are clearly being a dick to everyone else about it. All I can say is that I have been married to Phil. I will not tell you about the beginning or the end (if an end there was).
I will state that rings do not necessarily mean much to all the people who love one another. Maybe at your house it's a big deal, but we are not all the same. Humans are allowed to break traditions whenever they want. Relationships are not all based on rules.
Assuming that Phil is not being supportive of his wife because he is not wearing a ring crosses a line into the realm of creepiness. You are being a little poisonous. I think that is what the others are trying to point out.
Personally, I do not need you as my defender.
Sincerely.
geneviève.
P.S.: I really promise that I will not be reading this board again, please continue your exchanges without having to worry about me lurking.

You don't need to swear. Peace and love to you.

[crayongreg]

Pretty sure this guy is not for real and just joined the board to make this topic and have a laugh at the expense of others. Either way, it's disrespectful and sad.

[boat]

this whole thread is creepy. kind of funny but mostly creepy.

[majororgan]

think we're done here.